tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8995634.post2565587060918909028..comments2023-10-12T08:08:23.342-07:00Comments on The Literate Kitten: Plagiarism: It's a lot of hard workLKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05445951627105831041noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8995634.post-55390486894457465632007-01-13T05:26:00.000-08:002007-01-13T05:26:00.000-08:00I agree with you LK -- as a teacher who receives p...I agree with you LK -- as a teacher who receives plagiarized papers sometimes, I feel like it's a personal insult (I shouldn't take it personally, but it's hard not to). The student has lied to me.Rebecca H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10825532162727473112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8995634.post-64888262297718816702007-01-13T03:12:00.000-08:002007-01-13T03:12:00.000-08:00I found a peach of a reference in a textbook today...I found a peach of a reference in a textbook today. The book's by Minzberg who combines being a maverick with being a guru on management and who is highly respected even if more po-faced authors find his humour and humanity rather frightening. Subversive is the word we're looking for, I think.<br /><br />The reference said "An author* gives us guidance..." The asterisked footnote said "Reference unaccountably lost, I apologise to the author for this". The entertaining thing is that he obviously noted the page numbers of the original text an includes them next to the sections that he quotes.<br /><br />Surely the reason for objecting to plagiarism which involves stealing work rather than ideas, eg ripping entire essays off the internet, is that what counts is the learning process you go through to do the work. The assignment is a mechanism for making you go through that learning process. It is also a way of assessing what you got out of it. If it is not your paper, then it is not your learning process. In the long run of course, you are only short-changing yourself. ("You" meaning a generic person "one" or "on" or "man" not actually you, of course).<br /><br />But I thought I'd share the Minzberg reference with you.<br /><br />Aphra.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8995634.post-88601750375120518522007-01-12T13:19:00.000-08:002007-01-12T13:19:00.000-08:00Seems like people are just thinking too much about...Seems like people are just thinking too much about what constitutes plagiarism. Sometimes, it's like we want to make excuses for plagiarism. I don't think the issue comes down to ideas, labor or cutting corners; if that was the case, Dan Brown is guilty, even though he didn't crib any sentences for "The Da Vinci Code." Now I haven't read either "Atonement" or "No Time for Romance," but I've seen the passages cited, and seems to me that McEwan plagiarized Lucilla Andrews, even if he did sort of give her credit. But he didn't credit her for those specific sentences. Now if I'd written a paper in college and got caught trying to pass off certain passages as my own, I don't think the university would've let me keep going to school. That's the standard I hold McEwan to. No one disputes that he copied from her book, but people are just making excuses for him.<br /><br />I seem to have read somewhere that this isn't the first time he's been accused of plagiarism. Hmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com